new pond

daz2007 · Post by **daz2007** » Sun May 20, 2007 10:13 pm

started digging new pond today 6 by 12 by 5 foot deep just a couple of questions first how deep a base and also how many drains 1 or 2 pond is sited on pure sand and i will be using a liner. 2 feet below ground 3 feet above on one side and all below ground on three sides as i live on a hill. ideas much apreciated thanks.

stoney · Post by **stoney** » Mon May 21, 2007 5:53 pm

hello daz, I put aprox8" base in with reinforcing mesh.
I would think that one bottom drain would have been sufficient but if you went for two it would be a bonus and not a negative.

Stoney.....

daz2007 · Post by **daz2007** » Mon May 21, 2007 7:49 pm

thanks for the info. first pic today second days digging now at 7 by 3 by 3
[img]http://homepage.ntlworld.com/darren.brown90/day2.jpg[/img]
original pond in background only 800 gallons fish think they are in permanant quarintine

stoney · Post by **stoney** » Mon May 21, 2007 8:22 pm

The holes looking good matey, rather you than me diging by hand,,LOL.

Mind at least you wont do as I did, got carried away with the digger and went bit deeper than I had planned.. I wanted an over all depth of about 5 foot but have ended up with seven and half.......

Gazza · Post by **Gazza** » Mon May 21, 2007 9:01 pm

Hi Daz,

try to perhaps go a little deeper and if you can make it bigger......i promise if you don't you will regret it later

OK one BD should be OK and do you know what filtration you are going to have yet

How about filter on the BD and also on the Skimmer

daz2007 · Post by **daz2007** » Tue May 22, 2007 10:26 pm

hi gazza filter i already have is kockney koi 5000v vortex and filterclear with 11watt uv also have a separate 15watt uv have filterclear on skimmer with really good results skimmer is the bottom standing type but i have modified to go through side wall a lot neater i think. would like to incorperate these into new pond to save extra cost as they are only 1year old any ideas

Gazza · Post by **Gazza** » Wed May 23, 2007 8:45 pm

Hi Daz,

The best thing with filtration is bigger is better

One thing is with many manufactures models what they say on the label is not always what they will filter in a koi pond.

Do you just want to use these filters only or are you going to have another one

daz2007 · Post by **daz2007** » Sun May 27, 2007 9:43 am

pond update about half dug now
[img]http://homepage.ntlworld.com/darren.brown90/day5.jpg[/img]
getting tired but not giving up.
gazza with regarding filters now have in my possesion 1 ibc thinking of using this as gravity fed system as i can also source another one. these have cost nothing so would really like to use have seen them used before on here but not gravity fed these would be covered over with decking but removable for servicing.also if this is fed from bd what about winter will i have to tee in another mid feed and close down bd in the colder months any ideas

Gazza · Post by **Gazza** » Sun May 27, 2007 10:03 am

I like the cover good idea

I am not sure on the other filter you mention but you cant have enough filtration

an in the winter you will just leave the BD my main filtration from the bottom drain never stops well i have a main filtration and a TT and neither is ever switched of and all run 24/7.

daz2007 · Post by **daz2007** » Sun May 27, 2007 10:13 am

digging pure sand now easy to dig but don't want to get sides wet or me

filters i have seen look to be above ground so i asume are pump fed

http://www.koiquest.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2862
just thought these could be a really large and efficient gravity fed system.

Gazza · Post by **Gazza** » Sun May 27, 2007 10:18 am

Hi Daz,

Yes there are many types of filtration many which can be pump/gravity fed the pump fed can be above or below the pond if they are pump fed where the gravity systems are normally level with the pond so if the pump stop[s or is switched of the water will not overflow from the filters.

Bob Hart · Post by **Bob Hart** » Sun May 27, 2007 6:00 pm

Daz,

Am I correct in thinking an IBC is one of those large plastic containers? If so, they have a flat bottom, which may be an issue for cleaning. Unless you hoover it out each week perhaps?

daz2007 · Post by **daz2007** » Sun May 27, 2007 7:27 pm

yes you are correct bob i was thinking mabye sump pump to suck all the muck out.

emmaandaj · Post by **emmaandaj** » Sun May 27, 2007 10:18 pm

Hi,

The IBC are a really good size-would make a great filter, there are several posts with them made into filters. Im assuming you would cut the top of-if so could you not put a centre drain in and slope using cement? Im sure that if you look on the cuttlebrook section Mark used a similar technique to make a filter???

Regards Andy

daz2007 · Post by **daz2007** » Mon May 28, 2007 9:50 am

hi andy tops already cut as they have been used for quarinteen before.