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Bakki Shower "Add On To Exisiting Filteration"
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:06 pm
by Taggy
Hi All,
My set up is 4000 gallons medium stocked,(at the moment)I run a Nexus Easy 300,trickle Tower,Fluid Bed as my fiteration.Im adding a Showerr 3 tier and a Sieve in the Spring.
My question really, as im not soley Showers will i see benifits in the set that i am adding??? Will my koi see the benifits also??? Will me water change to a degree??
The long term plan is to stock with 12 quality koi,but im sure most can relate to this, you know how it goes if you see one ya fancy you just got to buy it!!!!! so perhaps we should say 15!!!
All help advice appreciated.
Graham
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:19 pm
by Gazza
Hi Graham,
You can never have enough filtration and with the shower you get the added bonus of more air,so combined with you Nexus and a shower i would say its a good combination. My pond is running on K1 and BHM and it seems to be OK
The BHM in a shower does seem to do good things and works great as i run a small shower on my QT and i know how good that has performed with the growing on of some fish

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:26 pm
by ajm808
hi i run a 4500 gal pond with a nexus 300 easy of the bottom drain and a backi shower with backi media of the skimmer i don't know all the hype about the backi media but for me it works.
until i put the shower on i never seemed to get a lot of growth but since the shower went on i am very happy with the growth and the health of the fish. it's just my opinion but i think you get a different type of bacteria growing on the backi media to what grows on plastic media i have no proof of this it's just my opinion and i do think the more water you can put over the shower the better they work.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:43 pm
by B.Scott
AJ,
the most important thing if you are going to shell out the dosh for Bakki showers is to be sure you have a pump that will dump the masses of water over the filter that BH needs to do it's magic. Not sense in spending big money on BH media and then using a piddling little (normal) pump.
B.Scott
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:51 pm
by Taggy
So a aquamax 15000 will do???? Or will i need a couple???
Graham
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:59 pm
by ajm808
i have an aquamax 16000 on mine with 2" pipe work and only one bend works fine.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:08 pm
by emmaandaj
Hi,
Depends, when you say you are adding a bakki shower-do you mean a real genuine one? If so a single shower needs a minimum of 3000 gallons per hour. At 1.5metre head an aquamax will on paper provide 2666 gallons per hour. I doubt that you wil get that much output in real life, so you will probably struggle with just one. Personally id use two and get in excess of 4000 GPH!
Ive been reading a lot of articles about the bakki showers as i intend to use one in conjunction with a nexus 300. The feedback on the showers seems to be that you get lots of extra growth and better skin quality and generally much better water quality-i guess it maybe down to a different type of bacteria? Also i think that they gas off a lot of toxins etc. They also help to get rid of nitrates (the only real wasy to lower nitrate as far as i know without water changes or chemicals) although nitrate is not deadly i believe it can effect the quality and growth of koi which could perhaps be why showers are so effective!
Andy

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:12 pm
by Taggy
No it's a genuine one,though im sure i can rig 2 pumps up somehow?? Luckily i have time on my side!!!!
Graham
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:13 pm
by Davej
Is there any noticable benefit in having a 4 tier shower rather than a 3 tier
How much BHM are you Guys running in your showers
Regards
Dave
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:16 pm
by emmaandaj
Hi,
Yes! I was reading that a four tier is more effective due to the water velocity crashing over the BHM. If you look on Yumekoi's website there is loads of interesting info and links!
Andy
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:19 pm
by ajm808
box and half in each tray of mine i think that works out at 15k thats what mike sent with it. been on 4 years now only touched once taken down to build pergula did'nt fancy knocking it the pond

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:20 pm
by size4koi
Hi
Just like Arthur we have a Nexus 300 from bottom drain and a 3 tier Bakki from skimmer which is situated within our greenhouse. We think having two different types of media from two sources benefits the pond, but the difference in the koi has been dramatic since installing the Bakki shower.
Go for it…
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:49 pm
by Jules
Don't forget that a;; that extra free air will help your pond to thrive not survive

Go for it and as has been said another form of media will assit your pool.
Jules
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:30 pm
by Taggy
Job done 3 boxes (BHM) on there way,the feedback and PM have been great thanks all for your imput.
Graham