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Hello All
This is the start of planning our new pond..
The size we are looking at is 12ft by 24ft by 6ft deep.
10764 gallons.
Are we better off having it 6ft deep everywhere or do you recommend having a shallow bit?
How many bottom drains should we have?
And filtration, u.v and pumps what would we need?
We would like a window ..is that a good idea or bad?
It would be a great help for any information.
We want to do this right first time ...
We are going to mark off the area tomorrow and take another piccy with it marked off ..the piccy below is just to give you an idea
regards
Maxine

Hi Maxine....

Are we better off having it 6ft deep everywhere or do you recommend having a shallow bit?

I'm sure Judy has a ledge in her pond, but really its personal preference..

How many bottom drains should we have?

Me personally i would go for two

And filtration, u.v and pumps what would we need

The choice is endless and it really depends on budget

We would like a window ..is that a good idea or bad?

Its a fantastic idea, great for looing at the fish and for spotting ailments...

Best of luck....

Are we better off having it 6ft deep everywhere or do you recommend having a shallow bit?
6ft deep all over and benched into the bottom drains

How many bottom drains should we have?

2 air drains bot 6ft from the ends and a "hump" between the 2

And filtration, u.v and pumps what would we need?

depends on budget.

We would like a window ..is that a good idea or bad?

Excellent idea and you do not need to waste money on a stainless steel fram so you will have an extra 150 quid to spend on filters

Hope this helps?

Jules

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Hi All
I have contacted our local council ...any the guy said so long as it doesnt take more than 50% of the garden we dont need planning permission.
How cool is that ...i could have a mini lake

Hi Maxine,

That is a big old pond and a few things to take into account is are you going to heat and the type of filtration and pumps as on a system this big could make it a big cost to run

6ft deep all over and benching towards two bottom drains would be my choice.

Filtration depends on your budget as do pumps so you will need to decided but the options available i would say is ,Nexus,Bubblebead,Aquadyne.

Windows are nice to have especially if you cover during the winter as you can still see the fish.

Good luck and we look forward to seeing this new pond come out of the ground

Hello Gazza ...well as you can see piccy of our garden we have the space to do quite a large pond
At the very bottom of the garden is a pebbled area with the sheds on ...we really only store junk in them so all this area can be used for filters etc ...i didnt have a plan on heating a pond this big, i am sure we will build something over it.
My best mates husband is a builder ..i have given him the dimensions tonight ...he is going to give me a quote for total build ...and if it's too hefty then ...we will have a go ourselves ...he said we can use his digger and cement mixer ....but it would have to be Christmas week ....
So the plan to start this in the spring ...may have been brought forward by months...my poor back and knees are aching just thinking about it.

One of my main questions i should have added ...was the block work ..does it need to be double skinned ...or is it better to lay the breeze flat ?
regards
Max

4 inch 7 neuton block with a finishing brick and a gap, backfill the gap with compo or concret as yo build and it will not go anywhere. Also the speed your man can lay the blocks will be better and more cost effective for you.

You may be able to start the build now but the fibreglassing will have to wait for warmer weather, unless it is covered and heated. Something else to think about. You should be able to knock a big hole in the project over Christmas week weather dependant. Good luck.

Jules

Hi Max,

One of my main questions i should have added ...was the block work ..does it need to be double skinned ...or is it better to lay the breeze flat ?

You need to use concrete blocks and it depends on what you want the pond to look like on the outside.My pond has the concrete blocks laid flat coming out of the pond and then on the front which can be seen i have the blocks tied into face bricks.

You first step will be digging the hole and getting a good concrete base in which is the back braking stuff

I think we build these ponds far tooooo strong

Here are a couple of pictures which may help:

Bottom drain in and re-bar ready for concrete:

[img]http://www.koipix.com/gallery/albums/userpi ... 2_1270.jpg[/img]

Blocks laid flat for strength:

[img]http://www.koipix.com/gallery/albums/userpi ... 2_1296.jpg[/img]

Finished Brick Work & Blocks:

[img]http://www.koipix.com/gallery/albums/userpi ... 3_1304.jpg[/img][/img]

Hi,

That would be a great size pond and should be great.

For that size pond I would go for:

6ft Deep throughout - Maximises water volume

2x Aerated Bottom drains (each with 80 or even 120 lpm of air if diffuser allows)

Filtration - depends of budget, please ensure you build a pond that you can afford to filter, run, heat, medicate etc. A 10,000 gallon pond is great, but comes at a cost.

For 10,000 Gallons you have many filtration options:

1) 2x neXus Eazy 300's, one from each bottom drain, (2500 gallon/ hour pump through each)

2) 2x block built filters - Settlement, Fluidised K1, Jap Mat

3) Seives and Bead filters

4) Seives and Bakki Showers (Chills water though)

5) 2 large Multibay filters

6) Loads more!

I'd also run one or two skimmers, possibly into some filtration, as well as via a heat exchanger and UV units.

Window - Definately, they always add another element to a pond.

Thanks,

Daniel

Hello ...
well the wish list is getting bigger ... LOL
It's my birthday next month i'll hint for a nexus 300 or two LOL
I am so looking forward to doing this ..
I have a nice collection of young koi various types and i keep telling them they are going to have a nice new home
No doubt you peeps have been reading my other posts ..popeye..whitespot ..etc and yes i have learnt the hard way so now i want to do it the right way!!
so please more suggestions..
regards
Maxine

Hi,

Yeh, make sure you PLAN PLAN PLAN, If circumstances allow, spend the winter planning, gathering info and designing, redesigning and altering your plans.

It will pay off in the long run.

Will be interesting to follow the build progress!

Thanks,

Daniel

Hello all ..
this may seem a silly question ...
If i am using bottom drains ...the the filters would be gravity fed ..what sort of pump do i need to get the water back in the pond ..is it a sequence pump?
regards
Max

you can use lots Maxine, I personally like to use aquamax mounted exterally without all of the caseing, then if there is a water issue they are safe and will not blow. They are also qutie energy efficient...which is nice!

Hi ....hmmm this is the bit i dont get LOL
please explain a little more ...a piccy or two would be good.
regards
Max

Hiya, maxy


so.......10,000 puddle club


welcome to pop in and i'll show you the pond, and give you a few ideas if you like.