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Why don't we use absorbable sutures in Koi?
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:59 pm
by Brockp
The data from the makers mainly Ethicon shows that most absorbable sutures maintain their tensile strength for 5 – 10 days depending on the size.
As the load we place on our fish stitches are minute compared with what we expect sutures to stand up to in man why don’t we use them ? or perhaps you all do and I am bring thick.
Reason I asked is I have just finished chasing my Koi with a damaged pectoral fin around the pond again to have the last stitch out…….much less stressful for him and me to just let it dissolve.
Any opinions? If you already all do just tell me and crawl back into my hole.
Peter
Re: Why don't we use absorbable sutures in Koi?
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:13 pm
by Duncan
peter
i use what ever i can get my hands on mate the last time i had a load sent from the USA im still working with these,
its a case of any port in a storm
i would love to try some, i see no reason why they should not work especially as koi heal fast
i know you have some things to say about drugs and stuff like this, but with Koi these are not readily availabloe to the hobbyist so we have to utilise what is available and when its available unlike licenced vets and doctors, we dont have to luxury of being able to pick and choose
dunc
Re: Why don't we use absorbable sutures in Koi?
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:54 pm
by Brockp
Hi Duncan
Absorbale sutures are readily available on the net and are not controlled by the normal medicines control laws regarding importing etc 6-0 / 4-0 vicryl is readily available to anybody... nice monofilament absorbable on a small reverse edge needle ideal for stitching up fins and things.
Peter
Re: Why don't we use absorbable sutures in Koi?
Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:20 am
by Duncan
cheers Peter
i'll have to have a look, do you have a link mate\?
like i say i do have a lot in stock though
dunc
Re: Why don't we use absorbable sutures in Koi?
Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:19 pm
by Brockp
Re: Why don't we use absorbable sutures in Koi?
Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:09 pm
by Brockp
Hi Duncan
I forgot my normal aupplier;
http://www.hillsidemedical.co.uk/browse ... 6&pageNo=3 has the whole range.
Peter
Re: Why don't we use absorbable sutures in Koi?
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:57 pm
by Brockp
Hi Guys
I forgot to say that the reason I use medical sutures (often out of date on the box....... we will leave that till another time) is that they have been manufactured to slide through tissue easily, the monofilaments are lubricated, but more importantly to be easy to knot. As we all know surgeons have two left hands suture manufacturers made polymers for their monofilaments which knot easliy, the half hitches slide down smoothly and the knots don't unravel.
Peter