Simply Koi and More Koi

No update really, as it's always dark when I get home no progress.

Thanks for the boards Gazza, no rush as I wont need to put the roof pitches on for a few weeks due to other commitments.

This Saturday I am putting 2 front posts and hoining beams up. These two will be the only ones parallel with the back posts, so I need to get these up and level.

They were going to be 6" square posts, but I couldnt get any for over a week, so now they will be 4" square posts. I also couldnt get 8"x2" timbers rreadily for this weekend, so instead of 2 of these bolted together, I will bolt 3 x 6"x2" timbers together.

The front will then be fixed to the back with 2 x 6"x2" timbers and this will make the whole thing solid.


The roof pitches will then be made up and fitted in a few weeks time. These will all be made first and exactlky the same, then lifted on top of the structure and screwed to a 6"x1" ridge beam. But that's in the future!

Hi Bob,

Selco does load of 8x2s. There latest treated timber are great, machine dried, straight as a die and as smooth as a baby's bottom. But unfortunately their quality does vary depending where they source their latest batch from and the fact that the nearest branch to you looks like is in Croydon!

David.

Put the front post up today and the 3 x 6"x2" beams for the large open 6-metre front span.

It was fun on my own, but a bit of planning and struggling meant it all went up OK.

Struggling to do up some of the bolts here, pictures curtosy of Daisy, taken from indorrs while I didnt know!.
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Who needs health and safety eh
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Put a couple of beams across the top to hold everything together temporarily.

So what do you reckon, big isnt it? Should I stick with putting more timbers across and just having a nice slope, or make it even higher with the double pitched roof? It could look well out of place if higher dont you think?
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A look from down the garden
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And a couple of pictures from the patio
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I think you are damn clever,dont think i could have done what you have by yourself?? Think me and the wood would end up in pond

You say it looks large,when my Pergola was done i thought it looked huge but after a while you just get used to it

I showed someone a picture of my pond same sort of thing they said it was huge like a swimming pool,i thought strange mine compared to some is small!!!!

Think i would go with the sloped roof,Pitched may look huge,but then again,i think either would look good.

Take it you are not thinking of moving then Bob in the near future???

Good job though Bob,interesting project to watch thats for sure.


Graham

Mr Hart...

My hat comes off to you mate....

Looks a good base for what you are trying to achieve..
i bet it was a nightmare lifting either end and getting them level...i remember when i did mine mate. I think you should stick with the sloped roof now mate, like you say a pitched roof will look out of place i think...

Graham/Jason,

Thanks for your comments, it was fun this morning bolting it all togther.

You both have said the sloped roof rather than pitched and I've just had a phone call to say the same. I'm inclined to go with the slope (that was the origianl design) and then if I decide later I fancy the double pitched roof, I can always change it about cant I.

Hi Bob I have been watching your ups and downs with is project and I am inclined to go with the sloping roof the other idea may look overwhelming it is only now we can see the size of it all Good going on your own there mate

LEE

Hi Bob,

Looks good mate and i love your steps i must get me some of them

Whatever you go for your soon get used to and don't worry about it looking big or odd thats how they look at first until there all done you don't get the pull potential of the thing.....if you know what i mean

I mean look at my little one

from this:

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To this:

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But in between we did end up like this:

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But thats another story

well bob , i think thats a stunning job on your own , you can see what its gonna be like , i dont think it looks untoward either , onward and upward mate .....job well done

Bob go with a pitched roof. It doesn't have to be no higher than another metre tall to give a shallow angle. As long as you do the timber strong enough it will take the weight of snow on your polycarb. Looking good so far and I would probably have used 8 x 2 with the spans you have used. Keep up the good work.

Jules

Hi Bob

Looking good!

Andy

Hi Bob.
Yep a sloping roof definately.
Doing a grand job will be worth all your efforts.
best regard's

Well we have had a couple of dry weekends,any more progress Bob???



Graham

Graham,

Yes it was dry yesterday and I finally dug out the pine tree which was in the way. Not easy digging it out when you want to keep it alive and it's 6-foot high, 4-foot wide, but it came out and was repositioned further up the garden. Took a long while though, so that's the only real progress.

Played around with the hearting on the pond today, and removed my home-made HX and replaced it with an original HX, which works far better. Friends around this afternoon, so no further progress.

Hoping over Christmas, to finish digging out the area at the end of the pond where the tree was. This has about 16" of soil to be removed and to dig 2 holes for more posts.

Once we get into the new year, I'll be fitting the posts and the connecting timbers, then it's the roof timbers and poly carb (which I know have a price for).

Hi Bob

Just wantd to say what a grand job you are doing there. I know you have been wanting to get this done for a while now so I expect you are really pleased that it has started. As to the roof I would have to agree with a slopping roof but like you said you could change it at a later date if were not happy with it or had a couple of days spare with nothing to do

I don't know how you do it all by yourself I just wish I was closer to lend a hand. Looking forward to seeing the progress. Well done its looking great.