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Hi Gazza

My feel is that a good flow when emptying helps wash away the muck more effectively, but I haven't ever drained it any other way so I may well be wrong!!

Will only open the flush valve half way tomorrow to see if it makes any difference!!

Regards

Dave

Blimey I had to read everything slowly at least twice to catch up on this Gents.

Now confess to liking Gazza 's and others waste pump system in preference to the gravity waste chamber concept! Didn't think I could change my mind.

Dave - Interested to know how the valve at half turn works and what diameter the pipe is?

Regards
TicToc

Tic Toc

I have my 300 dumping into plastic kitchen waste bin probably no more than 15/20 gal.

In the bin I have a sump pump that I bought from Liddles' for £39.95 (a monster of a pump with a float, so good I went back and bought 3 more just in case). This pumps into 40mm pipe which I can direct to either a water storage IBC (nothing like fish poo for your plants), the vegetable plot or the Lawn (I only put it on the lawn if is goig to rain a lot because the nitrates will burn the grass) or if I'm realy up to my neck in water then down the drain.

The pump is so good tjhat I can dump both chambers at once and the pump still dries up (it has a float cut out by the way).

I also got a smaller sump pump (the same make) which has a tap on it so you can put it in a water butt and attach a hose to it, that was £24.95.

I had never been in Liddles in my life but I go at least once a month now just to check on what they have on offer.

Phil

Mea culpa for not getting back sooner, Edinburgh trip dragged on but enjoyable. Phil, many thanks for posting and advice. Do you have a link to Liddles, or perhaps it's spelt slightly differently?

I'm still in a quandry on the best way to address this quite simple matter in a cellar environment

Off for a lie down and think,

TicToc

sorry Tic Toc, probably have spelt it wrong (I don't do shopping), it's one of those supermarkets (I think German) and it's related to another cheapo place.

It will be a few weeks until I pluck up the courage to go again, I keep checking for Boobs.

Phil

I think you might be referring to Lidl their website is http://www.lidl.co.uk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

i'd try this one from screwfix , works grand for me
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The difference with the one from (Gin Rins got it right) Lidl is the size, it realy is a monster of a water shifter. It also takes frogs and small bricks(only joking), the pump is ok up to 35mm solids. this suits me as my sump is nowhere near as big or as smart as steveWs.

phil

Gin Rin, Phil thanks for clarifying. Keep checking for those boobs Phil. I know what you mean.

Steve many thanks for your posting. Piccy of your very smart setup and link are very helpful.

Regards

TicToc

I saw in the first post you had thought of using a saniflo. I would steer clear of that one as a bit of BW would cause the internal bits to self destruct. I replace these things on a regular basis. All it take is a bit of string or something fibrous and the blade gets it tangled with the strainer and it all gets chewed to pieces. Besides which a Lidl pump is much cheaper and more robust than a saniflo unit.

B.Scott

Scott - Yes I did give saniflow a mention initially as this opened up the thread to alternative suggestions.

A local plumber had suggested this as an option and I wanted to run it past Questers as food for thought. With the ability of hindsight, and without doing a Gazza (edit Ed), I readily admit having viewed the price what was I thinking! Totally unsuitable and wouldn't pass the ronseal test. At the very least 'Dick Turpin' had the decency to wear a mask!

I think Steve's Lidl pump in a dump chamber will give the quick drop required and if ever the worst happened in a cellar area, it would clear out residual water automatically.

I've tested Gazza's modus operandi and this equally works just as efficiently though you need to be hand close to the turn-on/offable switch. No contingency for emptying water from a cellar if it ever flooded.

Thanks for the advice clearly based on experience.

Best

Tickers

Tic Toc,

You can if you like buy a remote control switch so you could have the switch in your pockets to turn it on and off as and when

If your water lever is above the pipe and pump (which normally it is) then this will still work as an overflow if you pipe into it with an overflow as i have both the pond and tank overflow pipes into this same pipe and they work well as water will always find its own level.All i have to remember is to turn the valves off when using the pump

Just when I've convinced myself the best way to go, Gazza does it again Another gadget for my pocket Mmm..... a rethink and a lie down is in order, Cheers Mate

TicToc

I am not sure if i said this before but one of the reasons for this closed system for me was i have visited lots of ponds and i found a few which had a sump used to "Chuck Up" a bit so i wanted a closed system so no s,mells....this wife would not like sun bathing with a bit of a stink near

if your going to use a bin try to get a wheely bin from some were as you can remove the wheels and the lid is water tight from rain and wene its sunk in the ground it will look neat , now you have to wait till next door puts the bin out for collection
this is what my dad done and works well as the flat sides allow nice clean tight fittings as the round bins dont do this so well
and you can do this for main filters in a row but you will need a few bins and they can hold a lot of water i did not ask my dad were he got them but he has four in a row pipe work going top to bottom so water has to up and down all sunk level and works really well